tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post122155745448034330..comments2023-03-25T01:26:13.310-07:00Comments on Moth Chronicles: The Speed of the Sound of LonelinessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-6481574274358303222014-11-24T03:31:28.953-08:002014-11-24T03:31:28.953-08:00can I have your email please?
regards.
extremdingh...can I have your email please?<br />regards.<br />extremdinghy@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-36065031812482892832010-12-15T13:13:22.418-08:002010-12-15T13:13:22.418-08:00Phil,
Whatever goes down in the next few weeks wi...Phil,<br /><br />Whatever goes down in the next few weeks will stick until the next EGM at least! That means the next europeans will be sailed to the same assumptions being made now...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-15306456493523081152010-12-15T01:58:20.586-08:002010-12-15T01:58:20.586-08:00Cookie,
You will not necessarily know in 3 weeks ...Cookie, <br />You will not necessarily know in 3 weeks what to build for the future.<br />In three weeks we will hopefully have the IMCA/ISAF interpretation of the existing rules. That may not last because its obvious that we need to change at least some things to remove ambiguity. <br />So there will be some rule changes in 2011 to tidy up things and in parallel to that change process we are to Phil Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04119956866591088255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-80448795206843687322010-12-14T12:28:48.514-08:002010-12-14T12:28:48.514-08:00The ISAF guide only acounts for articulating wings...The ISAF guide only acounts for articulating wings (your front element and flap) but doesn't say anything about seperated elements or how to define them. The C-Class was always allowed multiple sails even if they didn't use them so we are having to set a precedent.<br /><br />I'm quite happy with my opinion but at the end of the day I'm not going to the event and don't Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-44327744501256792732010-12-14T12:11:12.856-08:002010-12-14T12:11:12.856-08:00@cookie:
why 2 and not 9?@cookie:<br /><br />why 2 and not 9?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-82304635425952728382010-12-14T11:52:05.956-08:002010-12-14T11:52:05.956-08:00Can people stop using the two-element argument as ...Can people stop using the two-element argument as a way of disqualifying a wing from the class. <br /><br />If you are against the wing then please argue the actual reasons instead of finding a loophole to throw it out of the discussion. <br /><br />- If you are jealous of those who have one, then deal with it<br /><br />- If you dont have the money, make more of it<br /><br />- If you don't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-50955040442954779532010-12-14T11:38:30.300-08:002010-12-14T11:38:30.300-08:00damn my typing with rubber gloves.
Cookie,
...damn my typing with rubber gloves.<br /><br /> Cookie,<br /> In regards to ISAF IMM there is one sail. With respect to the first element "interfering" with the flow to the second. Are you refering to the change in AWA that there is chord wise along the sail? There is nothing different in a pocket luff or a rotating wing mast. Your argument is like saying no aerodynamic element of Bora Gularihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502940938290579388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-31165048584241923912010-12-14T11:36:46.067-08:002010-12-14T11:36:46.067-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bora Gularihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502940938290579388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-31198860618198118872010-12-14T10:26:32.695-08:002010-12-14T10:26:32.695-08:00@rtrs,
in my view, 2.@rtrs,<br /><br />in my view, 2.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-91533552721958479892010-12-14T09:43:37.593-08:002010-12-14T09:43:37.593-08:00Perhaps this is a naive question, but is there a r...Perhaps this is a naive question, but is there a reason why the rules impose a single sail limit? Regardless of the soft/solid sail discussion, if someone can develop a way to configure 8m^2 of sail area to be faster as a two sail arrangement, why should we exclude this option?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-2965133670799343532010-12-14T08:15:22.694-08:002010-12-14T08:15:22.694-08:00Cross-posted from SA. How many sails are in this p...Cross-posted from SA. How many sails are in this picture?<br /><br />http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2525/4094550246_e74122c6fc_o.jpgrtrsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-60288661994969632322010-12-14T07:57:38.353-08:002010-12-14T07:57:38.353-08:00I do not think anyone would be protesting if someo...I do not think anyone would be protesting if someone cut a slot in their soft sail, because it would not be faster. So why the fuss? A wing allows one to put the gap in there in an efficient way. This is progress.<br /><br />I think some of the opposition is also because people don't want to lose - which in this case is not just the current world champ. This is the wrong motivation in a classKarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15160777531235205252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-50339141496662862032010-12-14T07:41:00.705-08:002010-12-14T07:41:00.705-08:00Sorry, just re-read that. I wasn't suggesting ...Sorry, just re-read that. I wasn't suggesting that bora was behaving like a 10 year old....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-4473261680538897982010-12-14T07:25:22.305-08:002010-12-14T07:25:22.305-08:00Well by that logic my boat is an aeroplane to most...Well by that logic my boat is an aeroplane to most passers by at my club. Thankfully our rules are not governed by 10 years olds even though a lot of people seem to be behaving as such.<br /><br />How it's sheeted doesn't define how many sails there are. Would you claim a marblehead with a swing rig has only one just because one string controls it? By sheeting the aft sail you sheet the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-16303741130643123532010-12-14T05:03:22.294-08:002010-12-14T05:03:22.294-08:00The name are now anon's but it is pretty easy ...The name are now anon's but it is pretty easy to tell who is who. A jib wont be faster I encourage you to prove me wrong. So the two sail argument is crap, but for sake of argument is it possible to have a independant sail without a sheet on it? On our rig we have one sheet and one control. How can you call something a sail if there is no ability to actively trim it by itself.<br /><br />I Bora Gularihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502940938290579388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-65715293786702433322010-12-14T05:01:58.838-08:002010-12-14T05:01:58.838-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bora Gularihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02502940938290579388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-79371621379192852912010-12-14T02:50:01.001-08:002010-12-14T02:50:01.001-08:00Just a note of interest:Some of you may not rememb...Just a note of interest:Some of you may not remember that the last C Class cats to run with soft sails had abandoned the use of jibs and were flying una rigs, basically a cat rig with main only.This because of the higher efficiency of the one sail rig. I think the only reason 2 man modern soft sail cats have a jib is so that they can tack more easily and be more "tactical". So I don&#Giovanni Galeottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895290223853580492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-47355784314926682952010-12-13T23:27:07.689-08:002010-12-13T23:27:07.689-08:00There isn't many builders who can sustain comp...There isn't many builders who can sustain complete re-tooling and redesigning their moth every 2 years!<br />Hence the long list of builders no longer involved in the class.<br /><br />I'm going to put a jib in front of my pocket-luff rig for Belmont and call it a two-element slotted soft sail!<br /><br />Two aerofoils, one behind the other with a distinct gap, does not make one sail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-82396627334892337402010-12-13T17:31:08.605-08:002010-12-13T17:31:08.605-08:00Gio - precisely. We simply cannot allow a preceden...Gio - precisely. We simply cannot allow a precedent to be set whereby a development is banned on shaky pretenses before even being allowed to compete. If this is allowed, we hardly deserve to be called a Development Class any longer.<br /><br />Cookie - I don't doubt your willingness or ability to tool up for building wings, or Ellway's ability to design a good one. Or the abilities of Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15160777531235205252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-12912466023987878532010-12-13T16:25:02.954-08:002010-12-13T16:25:02.954-08:00The "one sail" argument is silly! why do...The "one sail" argument is silly! why does the fact that it has a slot mean it is not "one sail"? it's not like you can fly one part of the wing and not the otherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-55206281646666559112010-12-13T16:20:32.261-08:002010-12-13T16:20:32.261-08:00It's the one sail only rule that is tripping u...It's the one sail only rule that is tripping up the class.<br /><br />Area is easy, luff length is easy-ish (but is a little complicated by the one sail rule).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-13403028778904685772010-12-13T12:24:06.053-08:002010-12-13T12:24:06.053-08:00All the C-Class guys must be laughing at us... the...All the C-Class guys must be laughing at us... the ISAF measurement manual tells exactly how to measure wings, I just looked it up. It's not that hard...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-18014543528351711572010-12-13T12:21:40.303-08:002010-12-13T12:21:40.303-08:00The way I see it the problem began in July when Ad...The way I see it the problem began in July when Adam revealed his wing. Maybe before that becasue he has posted that he and Bora had an informal race to be first.<br /><br />That was the time for a decision on how they should be measured. One was made and then deemed illegitimate, I think because some powerful people disagreed with its content and used its process to discredit it.<br /><br />Six Phil Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04119956866591088255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-27032558910399851892010-12-13T11:30:36.976-08:002010-12-13T11:30:36.976-08:00I'm not in the loop so don't know what is ...I'm not in the loop so don't know what is happening right now but the way I see it is that Bora has a wing - he obviously wants it to be legal and therefore can't judge on it. <br />If you think that those on the committee have anything other than the best interest of the event and therefore the class in mind then you'd better rethink. <br />Anything the exec does has to be Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02043113364305110334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5873447945042506662.post-43252521300950503052010-12-13T11:13:07.862-08:002010-12-13T11:13:07.862-08:00All well and good Cookie, but what do you think of...All well and good Cookie, but what do you think of conflicts of interest on the ExComm.Cleannoreply@blogger.com